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From: "ME " <>
Date: Oct 29, 2012 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
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I schedule an appointment. I really don't want another thing to carry around :) phone, laptop, etc...
From: "ME " <>
Date: Oct 29, 2012 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
To: "" <>
I schedule an appointment. I really don't want another thing to carry around :) phone, laptop, etc...
There
is a remote control that is available for the aids that gives fast program
switching and volume control. I'm glad the headaches are better . It may take a
while to adjust to the aids but the trial period is only one cycle or 28 days.
The remote would give you more flexibility and is only $200.00. I understand that
the highs are bothering you and that is not what you are getting from you old
aids. We could make a program that would absent of the highs for you to use
when you wanted too.
Sent: Mon, Oct 29, 2012 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
HIM, Help me understand how I'm not being flexible? My
inflexibility is probably due to misunderstanding of everything in this world
of digital aids. I guess in essence I want to "play with all the
settings" and understand how they affect me in various settings.
I ask about features like "quick reset to the default
program" so I don't waste the time (~5 secs) everytime I need a change
from tcoil back to normal.
I think like an computer engineer and speak/act that way to and
can be misinterpreted. The complete lack of control and having to in my
mind, waste your time, playing in a "quiet" environment is
detrimental to the fitting process. Again my opinion. I would love
a way to work these aids in my environment. Is that even a remote
possibility?
I've been also using the deaf community for their thoughts on my
scenario. Some told me suck it up and deal with it, others said try
different audi's, most said spend the time to learn what your aid can do
because a lot of Audi's aren't you. Not trying to be condescending here,
so please don't take it that way.
I've been using them all weekend, went to a conference in atl and
had a very hard time hearing at specific times. Speech just seems much
harder understand add in noise event the restaurant program doesn't
seem to help everytime.
I'm trying get examples of where highs or tinny sounds cause me
problems. I thought emailing the examples that you might have some way
of isolating the sound and determine the range that may need to be
adjusted. You never responded to it, and that left me a bit chagrined.
In my world, your computer is making a bad noise, first I identify
the moving parts, clean\adjust\remove one at a time and note if the sound is
better\worse\no change. I feel I forced you into shotgun mode
instead of following my own intuition.
I didn't realize we had such a short time with the phonaks, I
specifically asked about 3-6 months trial period based on a large number of
people who've made the Ana-digi switch.
On the good news front, the headaches are less frequent and
usually start in areas of high pitch environments. I have heard some
things that i'd not heard before but they really were trivial but neat some the
less.
I would like to make an appointment with you and have you print
out the settings of the aids currently and the settings that
are available. You could even email them to me, I would be fine with
that.
I'm sorry, I know I'm demanding but I take it very seriously, akin
to someone missing a leg wouldn't settle for a prosthetic that's 2 inchs
short.
I need you to help me understand what I can and can't do with
D-aids.
That curmudgeon, Pete :)
ME, it is not that I don't want to work with you, its that nothing
available is going to give you everything you want and you don't seem to be
very flexible. We only have 28 days to be able to return the aids to Phonak and
if those don't work , there is nothing else to try. You may want to wait until
something happens to the aids you have , and then you won't have the mental
comparison to the ones you have.
Sent: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 10:21 am
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
okay, if you feel like I'll never be happy then i guess we should
end our relationship. I really did like you and you've spent more time
explaining things than others. I'm trying and sharing my experiences so
that maybe something will click with you or your partner would help. Like the
sounds I"m sharing to hope that you could identify the sound frequency as
where we need to make adjustments while might sound normal (from the recording)
to you are unbearable to me at the moment. I'm using technology to help
assist in configuring technology.
I'm still trying the aids, just disagreeing with some of your
assessments. If it's a one way communication how are we going to develop
that relationship. I'm not trying to be combative, I'm just trying to
hear clearly as possible or get to a point where I can adapt. The main
problem with the left ear was static at random times in quiet scenarios, other
than that i only feel like very minor changes would be needed. The right
ear definitely needs to be adjusted but since highs are over-powering. I
try to be respective of your time as much as possible but I want to learn what
you are doing so I can better relay to you the changes.
Since we don't seem to be on the same page, I guess we should end,
choice is yours. I'm willing to keep trying but if you are
that convinced i'll never be happy I won't waste your time.
ME, that is as close as we are able to do. If you are that unhappy
, bring the aids back and just keep what you are happy with. I am
convinced that you aren't going to be happy with anything that is available
commercially and I really don't understand why you are happy with what you have
except that is what you are accustomed too.
Sent: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 12:54 am
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
1. Actually, your old aids should give you headaches.
Nope, never did and even during the "fitting window" as
some audi's call it. As i also said it could very well be a coincidence
but 3 days running seems unlikely that it isn't
2. The high frequencies are getting stimulated more which should
help the understanding but the only thing that would give headaches is the
output.
If the highs are too high what would the side-effect be? For
me, it seems to be pain and excessive ear tiredness. I'm hardly wearing
them at work unless i have to talk on the phone or someone else because of the
highs. Speech has not cleared up in any shape or form, it's worse still.
Comprehension is definitely down but i've stayed true to what i said no
matter how bad I want to, i've not put the analogs back on.
The static issues are hearing are the high frequencies . If you
will notice you just get the "static' when you hear the S ,Sh, T, ed and
Ch. That can be cut down a bit but you do need them.
I disagree you 100% on the static. When the entire aid
sounds like a radio static. I should have mentioned that no one was
talking at the time. Attached is a similar sound.
Music sounds more natural with my aids off then my aids on, even
with the music program. I don't even bother wearing the aids now when
listening to music.
Actually, your old aids should give you headaches. The output in
them is much greater than what you are getting now. The high frequencies are
getting stimulated more which should help the understanding but the only thing
that would give headaches is the output. The static issues are hearing are the
high frequencies . If you will notice you just get the "static' when you
hear the S ,Sh, T, ed and Ch. That can be cut down a bit but you do need them.
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Sent: Wed, Oct 24, 2012 9:47 am
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
From: ME <>
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Sent: Wed, Oct 24, 2012 9:47 am
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
HIM, Please order another dalia
microP. The one in the left ear has had a number of static issues that resolve
themselves. The left ear sounds better than the right but both still need
adjustments. i've had headaches fro three days now, only when wearing the
aids, is this normal?
HIM,
This maybe purely co-incidental but 30 mins after wearign the
aids, I got nauseous and got a really bad migraine. None of my triggers
were present the only change was the hearing aids.
here are sounds that are very painful to my ears. one is the
tapping of a ring on a desk, one is snapping fingers, one is someone clapping
one is the sound of rushing water to a sink. The snapping fingers one,
(the whooshing in the backgroup is "white noise" generators courtesy
of my employer). keyboard typing aren't bad but aren't good
either.
The music program is great but I cannot hear any vocals, on the
normal program its the reverse. Maybe this will change with time.
I've promised myself, that I will not put the analogs in at all,
but may take out the digitals to "rest" my ears. The sound is
overwhelming on the high side, and still seems muddy, i can't help but wonder
if it's the highs that are making everything else muddy?
T-coil is good, but how can I have high gain as the starting
point, I'm constantly having to turn it up everytime i'm on the phone.
Another silly question, is there a shortcut key to get back to
program 1 so I don't have to go through 3 programs to get back to the
beginning?
All are good questions and I'll be glad to explain them when you
can come in . We have found you a totally analog aid from Resound and it should
give you what you have had but it is a super power aid and we will have to
adjust the output to something you can tolerate. I'm sorry I missed you . Let
me know when you can come again.
Sent: Sun, Oct 21, 2012 1:17 pm
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
I'm not sure I fully understand it, but I've been
suggested a few things and one of them was a retest aids on, and aids off.
Another was the real ear thing. I'm not sure I understand it,
and how it works. Could you explain it in laymans terms, and why you
think it won't work?
How many programs can one aid have? Can each program have a
different fitting formula?
Is there a model that we could try regardless of cost to cut
everything out of the range of my hearing aids, and slowly add them back in? so
I can hear the subtle changes?
I keep seeing you link the aids together, what does that do?
Should I abandon my views, and let you drive?
Yes , we have real ear but I don't see how that would help in
what you are trying to do.
Sent: Sat, Oct 20, 2012 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
Just missed you friday, at 12:30.
I've put the analogs back on for
now since we couldn't get them adjusted. I've been reading about "Real
Ear" is this something you have access to?
That's fine. Come by when you can .I'll be there until 1:00pm today
or anytime Monday. HIM
Sent: Thu, Oct 18, 2012 9:58 pm
Subject: RE: Hearing aids
Subject: RE: Hearing aids
The changes we made this afternoon, is confusing me. It
seems the sound is all over the place at times, warbling or fading in and out,
if you will. Almost like, if turning my head slightly the soundscape changes
immensely. Is this the aid compensating?
Also the left one had several bursts of static for no reason at
all.
The t-coil is a little better but still but I think I’d rather
reset the volume back to the default on the right aid.
Is it possible for you to send me/print me configurations
each time we make a change? I know you said you can store them, but I’d
like to keep a copy. So I can write notes.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Hearing aids
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Hearing aids
ME, the other hearing aids are here. Call and make a time to come
in and we will be glad to see you. HIM
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Sent: Mon, Oct 15, 2012 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
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Sent: Mon, Oct 15, 2012 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
HIM,
Thanks for seeing me today. I'm really impressed with the
level of service you're providing me so far. Unfortunately, after getting
into the real world environment the phonak's that we tried isn't
gonna cut it either. The sound was fuller compared to the starkey model.
And I guess is closer over all to what i'm looking for, however they seem
very prone to excessive feedback. the starkeys did too.
I noticed that the phonaks seemed muffled and no matter what
setting I had them at. They didn't seem to clip anywhere near as much as
the starkey either. Music was okay, speech never really cleared up enough
for me to feel comfortable wearing these. I'm hoping that we can get
closer with the next pair that you ordered today. I'm not opposed trying
the more expensive aids, but the problem would just be the affordability of
them.
What would it take, if it's even possible to, to profile the aids
now, and match them to a digital aid with as many channels that it takes?
Is this a pipe dream?
I'm remaining cautiously optimistic for now,
This Friday is a day off for me because I have to work at the
Exchange Club fair. My partner Becky will be in the office until 1:00. I will
be there next Friday until 1:00 if that will work. HIM
Sent: Wed, Oct 10, 2012 7:34 pm
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
HIM, I apologize, I haven't made it in. been one of those
weeks, would friday@ 3 work for you?
Okay, Will do. I'll try to get my audiogram from my other audi,
that I haven't been real impressed with.
I will be at a health fair tommorrow from 2-4pm but call in the
morning and see what would be a good time. In the ear aids would be fine and we
can get the same strategy (NAL-R) and they work together ( talk to each other
and the telephone can work like a surround sound and go into both ears at the
same time.)I look forward to seeing you.
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From: ME
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From: ME
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Sent: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 7:30 pm
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
Subject: Re: Hearing aids
Excellent, It will be easier for me to come by since I'm on one
aide right now. Is there a time better than others or would an
appointment be necessary? I'm also curious about ITEs as well.
We should be able to help you within your budget. The new aids can
use the NAL-R formula and do have a great T coil. The pico forte was a good boomer
and we think we can find it in the Phonak OK or the Starkey DP7 depending on
the gain level you need. Call and come by when you can.
